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What is Lennie's exact mental disability?

 

liam f #83927
Mar 11, 2009 10:59 PM

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What is Lennie's exact mental disability?

plz help.. this question is worth 70% of my semester grade.. plz???????????????????????

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sam j #83925
Mar 12, 2009 12:30 PM

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He is cognitively disabled. It is taboo to say retarted.
 

liam f #83927
Mar 12, 2009 12:32 PM

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I think you are incapable of answering my question...
 

sam j #83925
Mar 12, 2009 2:35 PM

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That,s mean
 

charles s #54728
Mar 14, 2009 2:23 PM

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Sam is right. Lennie is mentally challenged. This is his weakness. There's a lot of weakness in the novel.
 

charles s #54728
Apr 04, 2009 11:36 AM

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Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ! ! ! !

bj and liam are the ones who should be banished. You two are a couple of twits who just use this board for inane banter.

Say something intelligent or get lost, will ya?
 

ollie n #87377
Apr 04, 2009 2:03 PM

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he was kicked in the head by a horse, it mentions it a few times in the book, which sounds to me none of you have read seeing you cant even answer that simple question!!!
 

coco s #17435
Apr 04, 2009 4:29 PM

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The "kicked in the head by a horse" yarn is spun by George to get the boss to hire them. He has just heard Candy explain Crooks's injury, so he makes up a variation on that story as a believable explanation for his friendship with Lennie. No manly man hangs around with another man, right? But if a man looks after an unfortunate accident victim, well then, that's different. With this yarn, George ends the boss's inquiry as to whether he is taking Lennie's pay.

Lennie is mentally challenged. He was probably born that way.

Liam, you are spinning some yarns of your own with that "70% of my semester grade" nonsense.
 

tom m #104069
Sep 15, 2009 6:19 AM

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I would say it's everyone but Lennie who are disabled. He is the only one who is truly capable of believing in 'the dream' therefore I feel sorry for the other 'ranch hands' more. The one's who see the futility and patheticness of their existence. People like Crooks escpecially.
 

james m #104393
Sep 18, 2009 3:38 AM

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Great point Tom. Love this board but how do bone-heads like liu y find forums like this? YAAAWWWN. No one's interested in your broken English and silly blank links. Say something relevant or go back to the children's chat rooms.
 

paul m #104411
Sep 18, 2009 5:37 AM

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He's retarded isn't that obvious guys?
 

elvis c #104415
Sep 18, 2009 5:38 AM

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Personally, i think that lennies problems arent as bad as it seems, but that the lack of education in those times has effected him more
 

georgious kryiacos p #104399
Sep 18, 2009 5:41 AM

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If George hadn't killed Lennie in the end, they would have had to live their life on the run and george didnt want that. Lennie wanted to help george as much as possible but if anything he was making georges life worse.
 

kurt c #104439
Sep 18, 2009 5:44 AM

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it wasnt the education at the time because then they alll would be as stupid as lennie
 

paul m #104411
Sep 18, 2009 5:47 AM

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that is just a lie, i disagree. STRONGLY! I beleive the only reason George wanted Lennie around is because George needed too blame everything on someone else and Lennie is that retarded he doesn't know what's going on.
 

dj i #104425
Sep 18, 2009 5:44 AM

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i think that lennies disability is made up for with his strength !! :D
 

dj i #104425
Sep 18, 2009 5:45 AM

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i think that lennies disability is made up for with his strength !! :D
 

paul m #104411
Sep 18, 2009 5:50 AM

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No, the fact that he can't talk properly and he's obsessed with rabbits cannot not be made up for! But he is super strong. cool
 

elvis c #104415
Sep 18, 2009 5:51 AM

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Lennie wasnt stupid. he clearly had problems as a child and was lacking an education. and yes maybe other people didnt get an education either, but he shows signs of being slow or having a learning difficulty, not some sort of retard issue
 

hayley p #104429
Sep 18, 2009 5:55 AM

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yeah but if george always went on about how lennie was a nusinance and his life would be better off without him so if he only looked after and protected lennie to be able to have someone to blame stuff on, wouldn't he be better off on his own or just finding someone more gullible isn't a bit too much trouble just too be able to pass the blame. he OBVIOUSLY cared for lennie otherwise he wouldn't keep him around.
 

paul m #104411
Sep 18, 2009 5:56 AM

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i agree with you elvis but it is quite clear that he is extremely retarded! the fact that he says 'George' like 'Dorge' just shows really. I'd like too know how he became retarded though because i know that they used the horse story too get a job!
 

elvis c #104415
Sep 18, 2009 5:59 AM

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he is NOT clearly retarded. what proof do you have of that? as far as im concerned, Lennie had a tough upbringing as we are told he wasnt raised by his parents, so i personally feel that you are unable to prove someone is retarded
 

kurt c #104439
Sep 18, 2009 5:57 AM

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well as an excuse to get a job, george ("dorge") said lennie was kicked in the head but this could be the case, although he seems autistic
 

elvis c #104415
Sep 18, 2009 5:57 AM

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he is NOT clearly retarded. what proof do you have of that? as far as im concerned, Lennie had a tough upbringing as we are told he wasnt raised by his parents, so i personally feel that you are unable to prove someone is retarded
 

dolly p #104413
Sep 18, 2009 6:01 AM

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Paul, He could have a problem with his speech although i don't recall him saying 'dorge'. Having a speech problem could just be like a lisp it does not mean he is retarded
 

paul m #104411
Sep 18, 2009 6:05 AM

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the proof that he's retarded is the fact he can't remember anything, he can't speak properly, and every thing he touches, ends up dead! He's very retarded, not just normal retarded, it's extremely obvious! Ahh well, he seemed a nice lad :)
 

kurt c #104439
Sep 18, 2009 6:03 AM

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i disagree, he can rememeber the dream about the rabbits, his brain choses not to rememeber anything he doesnt like. autism!
 

kurt c #104439
Sep 18, 2009 6:03 AM

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i disagree, he can rememeber the dream about the rabbits, his brain choses not to rememeber anything he doesnt like. autism!
 

elvis c #104415
Sep 18, 2009 6:03 AM

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i agree with you there dolly. i think that it is harsh to be mean to someone for the way they speak. people have many differnt problems, but doesnt mean they are retarded. i still do not think lennie is retarded, and i think that this shows how we prejudge people in society
 

bam z #104417
Sep 18, 2009 6:04 AM

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kurt how do you know he is autistic? does the author say anything? no. he does not. do not treat us like we are thick when you are making things up! you dont know who you may be hurting in the process of making these comments!
 

kurt c #104439
Sep 18, 2009 6:06 AM

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im not hurting anyone, i think he is autistic because he cant speak properly, cant remember a lot, this at least gives a hint of autism, you cant rule it out
 

paul m #104411
Sep 18, 2009 6:09 AM

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guys it's very obvious that he is a retard. don't deny whats true, everyones different in there own little way and it's just sad too say he is a mega retard. It doesn't make him a bad person but what does is trying too rape a girl at the start, breaking a women's neck and killing every animal he holds. He should give up the retard act and be a cerial killer! (aimed at elvis c)
 

tom j #104431
Sep 18, 2009 6:06 AM

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I think Lennie is slow and very vulnerable, some people are born this way its not his fault.
 

elvis c #104415
Sep 18, 2009 6:09 AM

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paul, your comments are very harsh. ' he's very retarded, not just normal retarded, its extremely obvious'. so your saying that because someone is a bit slow and has trouble remembering things, that they are retarded? i think it is sick that people think this way. people have different abilities, and lennie was just slow with certain things. he was good at his work, he could remember his dream, so how dare you even say he is 'obviously retarded'
 

reginald k #104441
Sep 18, 2009 6:10 AM

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You can't blame Lennie for not trying. He does try hard to make sense of things. And he isn't as forgetful as he seems. He can't remember anything eventful but he can remember things people say, particularly every single word George says. The fact that Lennie had a difficult upbringing could also be a factor. As he wasn't brought up in a balanced way he still thinks and interprets situations like a child would. In my opinion he never had the chance to grow up. The poor education of the time may also effect him, but I doubt it's a huge contribution to his mental condition. Lennie could be really intelligent, if he knew how to be.
 

hayley p #104429
Sep 18, 2009 6:10 AM

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paul i don't ever recall him saying dorge and he can remeber the majority of things as george says he can remeber everything george says so that just proves that although he can't remeber some simple things he does rmeber alot really he remebers everything about the dream and wateva george tells him. he isn't retarded.
 

elvis p #104435
Sep 18, 2009 6:10 AM

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He was probably born with a mental disability, so i doubt a lack of education affected him that much, because even if he did go to school it wouldn't have made much difference because they would not have recognised his mental disability, they would just have punished him when he got something wrong, so i think it is not due to his upbringing.
 

gordon b #104449
Sep 18, 2009 6:13 AM

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it's true lennie does try but in the end he should just give up the only thing he can remember is a dream yeah it gives him hope but in the end what good is it if you cant work properly for the dream.
 

gordon b #104449
Sep 18, 2009 6:11 AM

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it's true lennie does try but in the end he should just give up the only thing he can remember is a dream yeah it gives him hope but in the end what good is it if you cant work properly for the dream.
 

elvis c #104415
Sep 18, 2009 6:14 AM

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A CERIAL KILLER!? so now because someone is slow, it means they are a murderer? you guys really are 'very very arsh'
 

aretha f #104403
Sep 18, 2009 6:15 AM

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I don't think 'retarded' is an appropriate term to use
 

paul m #104411
Sep 18, 2009 6:16 AM

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yes he kills everything he touches! MURDERRRRRRER! Elvis i feel you shouldn't take offence too this. But there is so much evidence of lennie being a retard, don't take offence because he's a retard. I do not think he could be clever, because throughout the book and the film, he doesn't have a clue what's going on. Curleys wife said something too him at one point, and he came out with something nothing too do with it, retarded if you ask me!
 

kurt c #104439
Sep 18, 2009 6:16 AM

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elvis you should feel so offended, it is true you cant say his brain works the same as other peoples!
 

georgious kryiacos p #104399
Sep 18, 2009 6:14 AM

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Lennie is too strong. He cant help but kill things.
 

ray c #104419
Sep 18, 2009 6:15 AM

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does he shank cerials on roads then yeah? is ir safe
 

elvis c #104415
Sep 18, 2009 6:15 AM

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look, people arent murderers because they are slow. how can you prove his brain doesnt work the same as other peoples?! maybe hes just slower than alot of people, but say your family member was like lennie, you wouldnt call him a retard
 

alice l #108545
Oct 18, 2009 12:44 PM

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Lennie is mentally challenged, or you could use a not very pc (politically correct) term and say that he's retarded. Lennie was NOT kicked in the head by a horse when he was young. "George said, 'He's my... cousin. He got kicked in the head by a horse when he was a kid. He's awright. Just ain't bright.'" Then on the very next page... "'I wasn't kicked in the head with no horse, was I, George?' [that was Lennie] 'Be a damn good thing if you was,' George said viciously, "Save ever'body a hell of a lot of trouble.'" So that proves that Lennie wasn't actually kicked in the head as a kid.
 

kylyn m #166215
Jan 23, 2011 4:09 PM

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he is schizophrenic. seriously. i know this was a question a year ago, but that is lennie's disability just so everyone knows.
 

dean h #170115
Feb 21, 2011 4:42 AM

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Lennie is a caring human. He loves soft things, but that can be his down fall.

Lennie has the perfect physical appearance, however as George tells the boss. "He ain't bright."

When under the care of George Lennie is ok, but when he is on his own. He constantly gets in trouble throughout the book, however is it always his fault?

Here are some examples:
1.) The girl in the red dress up weed.
2.) Curley's hand, although George tells Lennie to let Curley have it." Curley hates Lennie because he "hates big guys", so candy says in scene 2.
3.) The dead puppy. Just pets them to hard. Unaware of his own strength.
4.) He goes overboard with Crooks, when told that George may not come back.
5.) Dead mouse, although Lennie tells George he "found it dead." Scene 1
6.) Kills curley's wife, however you could say in this case he is set up by her. She knows what he is like, and leads him on.

Lennie obviously has something wrong with him, but I don't know the medical term, however he does have the tendency to forget, unless he is interested in something he is told e.g "tending the rabbits."

One final thing that may suggest he can't help what he does is when George tells slim that Lennie never does anything out of meanness.

Their is one final thing you may want to think about George calls Curley's wife "A rat trap." This may be a clue that she may have a bigger role to play than Steinbeck lets on at first.

Overall I feel that Lennie does have a mental issue, but other than a horse kicking him in the head, and him being forgetful. Steinbeck never really lets on what is wrong with him.

By the way. Don't put about Lennie being kicked in the head by a horse, as a fact unless you add that George lied. "I wasn't kicked in the head by no horse, was I George." Scene 2 - Page 25.
George replies: "Be a damn good thing if you were." Scene 2 - page 25.

Sorry for going on, but hope this helps.

Source(s): Of Mice and Men book

 

dean h #170115
Feb 21, 2011 4:48 AM

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schizophrenia is:

Somebody that avoids social contact.

Uses different language, and has different thought patterns. Not necessarily bad.

Lack of understanding about the real world.

Avoids social events.

Hope this helps.
 

meg h #187021
May 22, 2011 4:40 PM

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I've been reading all your answers and I think Paul is a bit harsh but i also think that elvis is trying to sugar coat everything. Lennie is obviously slow, he acts like a 8 year old. I don't think he's autistic but he's not the sharpest needle in the hay stack. What you should say is that he has a very limited mental capasity. He kills things is because he doesn't understand his own strength. He may have done this as a child and nothing happened so he doesn't understand why when he does the same thing (hits things to make them behave) that they're having a different affect. Lennie can't understand what's going on so he just reacts to things as they happen without realizing what the consequences will be. He is challenged, and slow. I'm sorry Elvis this is just how it is
 

emeli e #187189
May 23, 2011 1:44 PM

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lennie doesnt know his strenght. he doesnt know that hes capeable of killing an animal or a person. And lennies not retarded! thats mean!!! he just mental thats all. hes still a human being. jsut a little slow.
 

saffron v #204089
Oct 05, 2011 4:12 AM

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Lennie has a mild form of autism. Thats it, he is stuck in the mental state of a child.
 

lenzey c #251649
May 19, 2012 5:28 PM

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Lennie never tried to 'rape' the girl.. he said he wanted to feel her dress because it looked soft. The girl thought otherwise because lennie held her head like he does after the mice bit him.

Source(s): The book and common sense

 

jimmyb b #294419
Jan 07, 2013 5:53 PM

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A lot of people clearly haven't read the book. Also Lennies exact disabilty isn't detailed in the book. Aswell george does need lennie because a majour theme of the book is lonleness so george would still take the company of someone who doesn't have the intelligence to respond over being alone.
 

nathan p #294891
Jan 09, 2013 4:37 PM

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I am sorry but I think the word "retarded"is derogatory and quite frankly rude! He may have a learning disability and they way he does anything and believes anything is link to autism and may have asburgers but back then they said they were dumb no labelling and no diagnosis. My sister is disabled and I find the word derogatory especially they way some of you are using it ! Rant over !!
 

nathan p #294891
Jan 09, 2013 4:42 PM

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Going to Kylyn HE IS NOT A SCITOPHRENIC as there is no evidence of personality changing and also because he kills things is his him not understand! Trust me you know when some one is a schizophrenic !
 

tommy t #326407
May 29, 2013 8:04 PM

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While the fact that all of you are arguing this much over the fact whether he is retarded or not is stupid seeing how lennie is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER.
However, to answer the original question, lennie is most likely affected by some form of down-syndrome judging by the physical description of his facial features and the way he acts.

Source(s): Spent the past year in an advanced biotechnological course wherin most of what we leared was about genetic disorders.

 

nathan w #354525
Jan 24, 2014 5:27 AM

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As has been said many times before in this thread, Lennie was NOT kicked in the head. If you scroll up or press CTRL + F on your keyboard you'll see that George is lying when he says that Lennie was kicked in the head as a child. Here is a quote from my 300 word mini-essay about George being a possible pathological liar:

As we know from Section Three when George confessed to a God-like Slim about how he feels tremendous guilt for telling Lennie to jump in a river. His simple instruction almost caused Lennie’s death. This means the George will probably not hit Lennie due to his guilt, showing that he is a liar as in Section One George says “Are you gonna give me that mouse or do I have to sock you?” which is a blatant empty threat if the reader has already read the book more than once. He also lies in Section Two to the boss when he says “He’s my cousin…. He got kicked in the head by a horse” Then on the next page Lennie says “I wasn’t kicked in the head by no horse was I George?” George replies with “Be a damn good thing if you was” suggesting that he was lying.

I know it's a bit of a long one to read, but here's the TL;DR: George lies about many things in the book, such as his threat to hit Lennie and his lie to the boss about Lennie being kicked in the head.

If you wanna use that in your essay(s), feel free to take my main points and rewrite the stuff around it!

-Natfan

Source(s): Of Mice and Men book
(UK) Year 10 GCSE English Classes

 

Marfhal #2
Jan 24, 2014 12:18 PM

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As has been said many times before in this thread, Lennie was NOT kicked in the head. If you scroll up or press CTRL + F on your keyboard you'll see that George is lying when he says that Lennie was kicked in the head as a child. Here is a quote from my 300 word mini-essay about George being a possible pathological liar:

As we know from Section Three when George confessed to a God-like Slim about how he feels tremendous guilt for telling Lennie to jump in a river. His simple instruction almost caused Lennie’s death. This means the George will probably not hit Lennie due to his guilt, showing that he is a liar as in Section One George says “Are you gonna give me that mouse or do I have to sock you?” which is a blatant empty threat if the reader has already read the book more than once. He also lies in Section Two to the boss when he says “He’s my cousin…. He got kicked in the head by a horse” Then on the next page Lennie says “I wasn’t kicked in the head by no horse was I George?” George replies with “Be a damn good thing if you was” suggesting that he was lying.

I know it's a bit of a long one to read, but here's the TL;DR: George lies about many things in the book, such as his threat to hit Lennie and his lie to the boss about Lennie being kicked in the head.

If you wanna use that in your essay(s), feel free to take my main points and rewrite the stuff around it!
 

lennie's m #361090
Mar 12, 2014 8:01 AM

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Lewis Hardy reminds me of Lennie for some odd reasons, anybody agree with me?

Source(s): James Harnwell

 

lennie ' #361092
Mar 12, 2014 8:04 AM

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He's not retarded, he just has a sexual fetish for rabbit's and female hair

Source(s): pornhub

 

lennie ' #361092
Mar 12, 2014 8:06 AM

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If you guys on the forum would like to see in depth topics about of mice and men this link helped me loads!

www.hurr-durr.com
 

lennie's m #361090
Mar 12, 2014 8:08 AM

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The ILC is a fantastic place to find out new and interesting facts about how disabled Lennie actually is. You'll have a lot of fun while sitting in complete silence. The only payment to enter is to give up all of your human rights!

Source(s): Penny Else

 

lennie ' #361092
Mar 12, 2014 8:10 AM

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I personally think that lennie was part of the illuminati

Source(s): CIA Home page

 

lennie's m #361090
Mar 12, 2014 8:12 AM

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Here's a good link to find out more information on Lennie. Hope it helps you pass your exam pal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAnnR5Y7klc

Source(s): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAnnR5Y7klc

 

lennie ' #361092
Mar 12, 2014 8:12 AM

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Does anyone know George's address I still have his keys to the ranch

Thanks!

Source(s): Glove compatment

 

antonio w #361011
Mar 12, 2014 5:07 PM

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No, why would we need his adress dude
 

antonio w #361011
Mar 12, 2014 5:08 PM

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http://www.YouTube.com/iron-man-2-alternate-opening/

LOL on THAT Lennie's M! You're not a good speller. I am.

Source(s): I'm smarter than all you ass clowns

 

jonathan k #361167
Mar 12, 2014 5:11 PM

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Oh yeah baby. Me and Antonio ARE SMARTER THAN ALL U ASS CLOWNS
 

Re'Jo k #361169
Mar 12, 2014 5:15 PM

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Nice one. Lennie is mentally disabled. he was kicked in the head by a donkey you dumb legumes. u all dont know anything about this book so get lost.
 

Alexander A. Schwauber #361175
Mar 12, 2014 5:32 PM

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Reported for the last four to five responses.
 

yvonne s #361178
Mar 12, 2014 5:37 PM

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Agreed Alexander^^^^^^^^^^^
 

Benjamin Rodriguez #361179
Mar 12, 2014 5:50 PM

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He got hit on the head with something...that's what everybody says above^^.
 

aer j #361189
Mar 12, 2014 6:10 PM

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Guessing what CoCo said is right.
 

George
Mar 13, 2014 2:20 PM

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Agreed!:)
 

George
Mar 13, 2014 2:21 PM

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@Paul M:
No, he's NOT retarded so stop saying that.
 

adadson v #361915
Mar 17, 2014 5:52 PM

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A serial killer isn't a good answer, nor will it make a difference?

Source(s): my brain

 

julianna de la cruz r #361919
Mar 17, 2014 5:54 PM

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IDK
 

ann f #362286
Mar 19, 2014 5:43 PM

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NOt a serial killer
 

michael o #374401
May 29, 2014 10:31 AM

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Lennie is schizophrenic. If you refer to the ending of the book lennie is talking to his aunt and a rabbit that clearly aren't there. He is seeing things that aren't real and he had a conversation with a rabbit. How is this not schizophrenia
 

depressed j #374314
May 29, 2014 11:32 AM

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He is schizophrenia? Huh? English Michael?
 

michael s #374410
May 29, 2014 11:40 AM

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Quick quiz.
 

bella c #374415
May 29, 2014 11:55 AM

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Lennie is actually schizophrenic, if you refer to the ending of the book Lennie is talking to his aunt and a rabbit that are not there. You could say that he is imagining these things. That's how you could tell he's schizophrenic.
 

bella c #374415
May 29, 2014 12:03 PM

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But what I can also tell you is that he is not retarded. All the boys and partially girls who said Lennie is retarded you all stink.
 

emily s #374428
May 29, 2014 1:07 PM

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I totally agree with Bella's first answer. Lennie's disability is called schizophrenic, which is when you are imagining things that aren't real . . .
 

daniel c #387146
Sep 15, 2014 9:11 AM

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Lennie has Residual sub type of Schizophrenia because of lack of symptoms in one category and also suffers from Reactive Attachment Disorder(RAD). This is probably from not having enough of a bond with hos mother when he was a child which may be that he looks to everyone for relationships, like when he walked into Crooks room, or when he takes the mice. He also doesn't take social cues or understand the difference between right or wrong, he only knows if George is mad or not.. This is also the reason he copies George's every move, he desperately needs someone's approval.
 

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