Catharine Alice MacKinnon (born October 7, 1946) is an American radical feminist, scholar, lawyer, teacher and activist. Born in Minnesota, MacKinnon attended Smith College and earned her J.D. and Ph.D. from Yale University. She is the Elizabeth A. Long Professor of Law at the University of Michigan Law School.
As a legal scholar, MacKinnon has addressed the issues of sexual harassment and pornography.Early life
MacKinnon was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota on October 7, 1946. Her mother is Elizabeth Valentine Davis; her father, George E. MacKinnon was a lawyer, congressman (1947 to 1949), and judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit (1969 to 1995). She has two younger brothers.
MacKinnon became the third generation of her family to attend her mother's alma mater, Smith College in Massachusetts. She graduated in the top 2% of her class at Smith and earned a J.D. and a Ph.D. from Yale University. While at Yale Law School, she received a National Science Foundation fellowship.Legal career
MacKinnon is the Elizabeth A. Long Professor of Law at the University of Michigan Law School. In 2007, she served as the Roscoe Pound Visiting Professor of Law at Harvard Law School.
MacKinnon is a highly cited legal scholar. She has been a visiting professor at various universities and regularly appears in public speaking events. On February 10, 2005, she attended the premiere of Inside Deep Throat (for which she was featured as an interviewee) and took part in a panel discussion after the film.
On April 29, 2009, MacKinnon argued for the proposition "it's wrong to pay for sex" in an Intelligence Squared U.S. debate.Ideas and activism
MacKinnon's ideas may be divided into three central—although overlapping and ongoing—areas of focus: sexual harassment, pornography, and international work. She has also devoted attention to social and political theory and methodology.
According to an article published by Deborah Dinner in the March/April 2006 issue of Legal Affairs, MacKinnon first became interested in issues concerning sexual harassment when she heard that an administrative assistant at Cornell University resigned after being refused a transfer when she complained of her supervisor's harassing behavior, and then was denied unemployment benefits because she quit for "personal" reasons. It was at an awareness-raising session about this and other women's workplace experiences, organized by Lin Farley as part of a Cornell class on women and work, that the term "sexual harassment" was coined.
In 1977, MacKinnon graduated from Yale Law School after having written a paper on sexual harassment for Professor Thomas I. Emerson. Two years later, MacKinnon published "Sexual Harassment of Working Women", arguing that sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and any other sex discrimination prohibition. While working on "Sexual Harassment", she shared draft copies with attorneys litigating early sexual harassment cases, including Nadine Taub, who represented Yale undergraduates in Alexander v. Yale, the first test case of MacKinnon's legal theory. While the students ultimately lost, primarily on technical grounds, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit recognized that, under the civil rights statute Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, schools have a responsibility to address sexual harassment as a form of sex discrimination.
In her book, MacKinnon argued that sexual harassment is sex discrimination because the act reinforces the social inequality of women to men (see, for example, pp. 116–18, 174). She distinguishes between two types of sexual harassment (see pp. 32–42): 1) "quid pro quo", meaning sexual harassment "in which sexual compliance is exchanged, or proposed to be exchanged, for an employment opportunity (p. 32)" and 2) the type of harassment that "arises when sexual harassment is a persistent condition of work (p. 32)". In 1980, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission followed MacKinnon's framework in adopting guidelines prohibiting sexual harassment by prohibiting both quid pro quo harassment and hostile work environment harassment (see 29 C.F.R. § 1604.11 (a)).
In 1986, the Supreme Court held in Meritor Savings Bank v. Vinson that sexual harassment may violate laws against sex discrimination. In Meritor, the Court recognized the distinction between quid pro quo sexual harassment and hostile workplace harassment. In a 2002 article, MacKinnon wrote
"Without question," then-Justice Rehnquist wrote for a unanimous Court, "when a supervisor sexually harasses a subordinate because of the subordinate's sex, that supervisor "discriminate[s]" on the basis of sex." The D.C. Circuit, and women, had won. A new common law rule was established.
MacKinnon's book, Sexual Harassment of Working Women: A Case of Sex Discrimination, is the eighth most-cited American legal book published since 1978, according to a study published by Fred R. Shapiro in January 2000.
MacKinnon, along with late feminist activist Andrea Dworkin, has been active in attempting to change legal postures towards pornography by framing it as a form of sex discrimination and, more recently, a form of human trafficking. She (and Dworkin) define pornography as follows
We define pornography as the graphic sexually explicit subordination of women through pictures and words that also includes (i) women are presented dehumanized as sexual objects, things, or commodities; or (ii) women are presented as sexual objects who enjoy humiliation or pain; or (iii) women are presented as sexual objects experiencing sexual pleasure in rape, incest or other sexual assault; or (iv) women are presented as sexual objects tied up, cut up or mutilated or bruised or physically hurt; or (v) women are presented in postures or positions of sexual submission, servility, or display; or (vi) women's body parts—including but not limited to vaginas, breasts, or buttocks—are exhibited such that women are reduced to those parts; or (vii) women are presented being penetrated by objects or animals; or (viii) women are presented in scenarios of degradation, humiliation, injury, torture, shown as filthy or inferior, bleeding, bruised, or hurt in a context that makes these conditions sexual.
In Toward a Feminist Theory of the State, MacKinnon writes, "Pornography, in the feminist view, is a form of forced sex, a practice of sexual politics, and institution of gender inequality." MacKinnon chooses a few points to focus on specifically, depicting the sexual exploitation of women as a means of showing their inferiority by displaying them as sexual objects, things or commodities, which dehumanizes them. She writes, "Pornography contributes causally to attitudes and behaviors of violence and discrimination which define the treatment and status of half the population.":196
In 1980, Linda Boreman (who had appeared, under the name Linda Lovelace in the pornographic film Deep Throat) claimed her ex-husband Chuck Traynor had violently coerced her into making Deep Throat and other pornographic films. Boreman made her charges public for the press corps at a press conference, together with MacKinnon, members of Women Against Pornography, and feminist writer Andrea Dworkin offering statements in support. After the press conference, Dworkin, MacKinnon, Boreman, and Gloria Steinem began discussing the possibility of using federal civil rights law to seek damages from Traynor and the makers of Deep Throat. Boreman was interested but backed off after Steinem discovered that the statute of limitations for a possible suit had passed.
MacKinnon and Dworkin continued to discuss civil rights litigation as a possible approach to combating pornography. MacKinnon opposed traditional arguments against pornography based on the idea of morality or sexual innocence, as well as the use of traditional criminal obscenity law to suppress pornography. Instead of condemning pornography for violating "community standards" of sexual decency or modesty, they characterized pornography as a form of sex discrimination and sought to give women the right to seek damages under civil rights law. "Pornography, in the feminist view is a form of forced sex, a practice of sexual politics, an institution of gender inequality.":197
In 1983, the Minneapolis city government hired MacKinnon and Dworkin to draft an antipornography civil rights ordinance as an amendment to the Minneapolis city civil rights ordinance. The amendment defined pornography as a civil rights violation against women and allowed women who claimed harm from pornography to sue the producers and distributors for damages in civil court. The law was passed twice by the Minneapolis city council but vetoed by the mayor. Another version of the ordinance passed in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1984, but was ruled unconstitutional by the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals. Wilson, Steven Harmon (2012).
MacKinnon wrote in the Harvard Civil Rights-Civil Liberties Law Review in 1985
And as you think about the assumption of consent that follows women into pornography, look closely some time for the skinned knees, the bruises, the welts from the whippings, the scratches, the gashes. Many of them are not simulated. One relatively soft core pornography model said, "I knew the pose was right when it hurt." It certainly seems important to the audiences that the events in the pornography be real. For this reason, pornography becomes a motive for murder, as in "snuff" films in which someone is tortured to death to make a sex film. They exist."
MacKinnon represented Boreman from 1980 until Boreman's death in 2002. Civil libertarians frequently find MacKinnon's theories objectionable (see "Criticisms" section), arguing there is no evidence that sexually explicit media encourages or promotes violence against, or other measurable harm of women. One laboratory study found that possible temporary effects of pornography may dissipate over time.
In February 1992, the Supreme Court of Canada largely accepted MacKinnon's theories of equality, hate propaganda, and pornography, citing extensively from a brief she co-authored in a ruling against Manitoba pornography distributor Donald Butler. The Butler decision was controversial; it is sometimes implied that shipments of Dworkin's book Pornography: Men Possessing Women were seized by Canadian customs agents under this ruling, as well as books by Marguerite Duras and David Leavitt.
Successful Butler prosecutions have been undertaken against the lesbian sadomasochistic magazine Bad Attitude, as well as the owners of a gay and lesbian bookstore for selling it. Canadian authorities raided an art gallery and confiscated controversial paintings depicting child abuse. Many free speech and gay rights activists have alleged that the law is selectively enforced, targeting the LGBT community.
MacKinnon represented Bosnian and Croatian women against Serbs accused of genocide since 1992. She was co-counsel, representing named plaintiff S. Kadic, in Kadic v. Karadzic and won a jury verdict of $745 million in New York City on August 10, 2000. The lawsuit (under the United States' Alien Tort Statute) established forced prostitution and forced impregnation as legally actionable acts of genocide. In 2001, MacKinnon was named co-director of the Lawyers Alliance for Women (LAW) Project, an initiative of Equality Now, an international non-governmental organization.Political theory
MacKinnon's work largely focuses on the difference between quality of social and economic conditions for women in both the private and public spheres of life. MacKinnon believes that society fails to recognize the existing hierarchies present within it that have subordinated women in particular for such a long time that they have been perceived as natural. "Men's forms of dominance over women have been accomplished socially as well as economically, prior to the operation of law, without express state acts, often in intimate contexts, as everyday life.":161
MacKinnon writes about the interrelations between theory and practice, recognizing that women's experiences have, for the most part, been ignored in both arenas. Furthermore, she uses Marxism to critique certain points in feminist theory and uses feminism to criticize Marxist theory. She sees hypocrisy in much of Marx's theory due to his failure to mention women's oppression in relation to class oppression. MacKinnon notes Marx's criticism of theory that treated class division as a spontaneous event that occurred naturally. Marx saw class as an unnatural status quo resulting from the ownership of the means of production while at the same time thinking of women's responsibility for child-rearing as a "natural" sex role. She understands epistemology as theories of knowing and politics as theories of power. She explains, "Having power means, among other things, that when someone says, 'this is how it is', it is taken as being that way. ... Powerlessness means that when you say 'this is how it is,' it is not taken as being that way. This makes articulating silence, perceiving the presence of absence, believing those who have been socially stripped of credibility, critically contextualizing what passes for simple fact, necessary to the epistemology of a politics of the powerless."
In 1996, Fred R. Shapiro calculated that "Feminism, Marxism, Method, and the State: Toward Feminist Jurisprudence", 8 Signs 635 (1983), was the 96th most cited article in law reviews even though it was published in a non-legal journal.Criticism
During the "Feminist Sex Wars" in the 1980s, feminists opposing anti-pornography stances, such as Carole Vance and the late Ellen Willis, began referring to themselves as "pro-sex" or "sex-positive feminists". Sex positive feminists and anti-pornography feminists have debated over the implicit and explicit meanings of these labels. Sex-positive feminists note that anti-pornography ordinances contrived by MacKinnon and Dworkin called for the removal, censorship, or control over sexually explicit material.
In States of Injury (1995), Wendy Brown contends that MacKinnon's attempt to ban prostitution and pornography does not primarily protect but reinscribes the category of "woman" as an essentialized identity premised on injury. In The Nation, Brown also characterized MacKinnon's Toward a Feminist Theory of the State (1989) as a "profoundly static world view and undemocratic, perhaps even anti-democratic, political sensibility" as well as "flatly dated" and "developed at 'the dawn of feminism's second wave ... framed by a political-intellectual context that no longer exists—a male Marxist monopoly on radical social discourse'".Personal life
MacKinnon formerly had a relationship with author and animal-rights activist Jeffrey Masson.Selected works
- MacKinnon, Catharine (1979). Sexual Harassment of Working Women: A Case of Sex Discrimination. New Haven: Yale University Press. ISBN 9780300022995.
- ——; Dworkin, Andrea (1985). The Reasons Why: Essays on the New Civil Rights Law Recognizing Pornography as Sex Discrimination. New York: Women Against Pornography. OCLC 15992953.
- MacKinnon, Catharine A. (Winter 1985). "Pornography, Civil Rights, and Speech". Harvard Civil Rights-Civil Liberties Law Review. Harvard Law School. 20 (1): 10–68. Archived from the original on 2016-03-04.
- Dworkin, Andrea (Spring 1985). "Against the Male Flood: Censorship, Pornography, and Equality". Harvard Journal of Law & Gender (formerly Women's Law Journal). HeinOnline on behalf of Harvard Law School. 8: 1–30.
- —— (1987). Feminism Unmodified: Discourses on Life and Law. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press. ISBN 9780674298743.
- ——; Dworkin, Andrea (1988). Pornography and Civil Rights: A New Day for Women's Equality. Minneapolis, Minnesota: Organizing Against Pornography. ISBN 9780962184901. Available online.
- —— (1989). Toward a Feminist Theory of the State. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press. ISBN 9780674896468.
- —— (1993). Only Words. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press. ISBN 9780674639348.
- ——; Dworkin, Andrea (1997). In Harm's Way: The Pornography Civil Rights Hearings. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press. ISBN 9780674445796.
- —— (2005). Women's Lives, Men's Laws. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Belknap Press of Harvard University Press. ISBN 9780674015401.
- —— (2006). Are Women Human?: and Other International Dialogues. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Belknap Press of Harvard University Press. ISBN 9780674025554.
- MacKinnon, Catharine A. (1994), "Turning Rape Into Pornography", in Stiglmayer, Alexandra, Mass Rape: The War Against Women in Bosnia-Herzegovina, University of Nebraska Press, pp. 73–81, ISBN 9780803292291
- —— (1994), "Rape, Genocide, and Women's Human Rights", in Stiglmayer, Alexandra, Mass Rape: The War Against Women in Bosnia-Herzegovina, University of Nebraska Press, pp. 183–196, ISBN 9780803292291
- —— (1995), "Speech, Equality, and Harm: The Case Against Pornography", in Lederer, Laura; Delgado, Richard, The Price We Pay: The Case Against Racist Speech, Hate Propaganda, and Pornography, New York: Hill and Wang, ISBN 9780809015771.
- —— (1996), "Feminism, Marxism, Method and the State: An Agenda for Theory", in Jackson, Stevi; McIntosh, Mary, Feminism and Sexuality: A Reader, New York: Columbia University Press, pp. 182–190, ISBN 9780231107082.
- —— (1997), "Sexuality", in Nicholson, Linda, The Second Wave: A Reader in Feminist Theory, New York: Routledge, pp. 158–180, ISBN 9780415917612.
- —— (2005), "Difference and Dominance: On Sex Discrimination", in Cudd, Ann E.; Andreasen, Robin O., Feminist Theory: A Philosophical Anthology, Oxford, UK/Malden, Massachusetts: Blackwell Publishing, pp. 392–402, ISBN 9781405116619
- —— (2006), "Equality and Speech", in Spector, Jessica, Prostitution and Pornography: Philosophical Debate About the Sex Industry, Stanford: Stanford University Press, pp. 80–105, ISBN 9780804749381.
- —— (2010), "Pornography and Censorship: From 'Pornography, Civil Rights, and Speech'", in Vaughn, Lewis, Doing Ethics: Moral Reasoning and Contemporary Issues (2nd. ed.), New York: W. W. Norton & Co, pp. 299–311, ISBN 9780393934281. Pdf.
- —— (2011), "X-underrated: Living in a World the Pornographers Have Made", in Tankard Reist, Melinda; Bray, Abigail, Big Porn Inc.: Exposing the Harms of the Global Pornography Industry, North Melbourne, Victoria: Spinifex Press, pp. 9–15, ISBN 9781876756895.
- MacKinnon, Catharine A. (1983). "Not a Moral Issue". Yale Law & Policy Review. Yale Law School. 2 (2): 321–345. JSTOR 40239168. Pdf.
- —— (Winter 1985). "Pornography, Civil Rights, and Speech". Harvard Civil Rights-Civil Liberties Law Review. Harvard Law School. 20 (1): 10–68. Archived from the original on 2016-03-04.
- Extracted in Pornography and Censorship, in Doing Ethics: Moral Reasoning and Contemporary Issues by Lewis Vaughn, second edition, ISBN 9780393934281
- —— (January 1989). "Sexuality, Pornography, and Method: "Pleasure under Patriarchy"". Ethics. University of Chicago Press. 99 (2): 314–346. JSTOR 2381437.
- Also available as: —— (1989), "Sexuality", in MacKinnon, Catharine, Toward a Feminist Theory of the State, Harvard University Press, pp. 126–154, ISBN 0-674-89646-7, OCLC 26545325
- —— (Spring 1990). "Graduation address: Yale Law School, June 1989". Yale Journal of Law and Feminism. Yale Law School. 2 (2): 299–303. Pdf.
- —— (November 1991). "Pornography as Defamation and Discrimination". Boston University Law Review. Boston University School of Law. 71 (5): 793–818. Pdf.
- —— (Fall 1991). "From Practice to Theory, or What is a White Woman Anyway?". Yale Journal of Law and Feminism. Yale Law School. 4 (1): 13–22. Pdf.
- See also: Ain't I a Woman? speech by Sojourner Truth.
- —— (1993). "Prostitution and Civil Rights". Michigan Journal of Gender and Law. HeinOnline on behalf of University of Michigan Law School. 1: 13–32.
- Meritor Savings Bank v. Vinson, 477 U.S. 57 (1986)
- American Booksellers Ass'n, Inc. v. Hudnut (alternate URL) 771 F.2d 323 (7th Cir. 1985), aff'd, 475 U.S. 1001 (1986)
- Andrews v. Law Society of British Columbia  1 S.C.R. 143
- R. v. Keegstra,  3 S.C.R. 697 (See also James Keegstra)
- R. v. Butler,  1 S.C.R. 452
- Kadic v Karadzic Alternate URL 70 F.3rd 232 (2nd Cir. 1995), rehearing denied, 74 F.3rd 377 (2nd Cir. 1996), cert. denied, 518 U.S. 1005 (1996).
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- Faculty biography, University of Michigan.
- Webpage, Harvard Law School
- Bibliography of MacKinnon's works.
- "A Conversation With Catherine MacKinnon", transcript of interview by Ben Wattenberg, Think Tank, July 7, 1995.
- "Clinton Scandal: A Feminist Issue?", interview with Katha Pollitt, Linda Hirshman, and Catherine MacKinnon by Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!, January 26, 1998.